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that. you're also taxing the middle class under the ryan plan. that is disdain today. >> all right, dr. ruiz. so do you want a 30-second rebuttal of the campaign? >> of course, i do. this is critically important. was there police brutality or was there not? was it an elder or a child? these things, folks, are in the press. they are in "the boston herald," they are in the harvard newspaper. they are documented. they are written. they're spelled out for people to see. it is critically important that people know that who he's saying he is right now is not who he is. further, what i said in that email message was that the city councilman should have been held accountable for allowing durhamville to be the third-world condition that it was and that it continues to be. have your party release the entire interslew. -- interview. release the interview that exonerates me. >> we're down to the last couple of questions. elizabeth, you have the floor. >> dr. ruiz, in 2010 a bipartisan federal commission unveiled the plan to cut the nation's deficit by $4 trillion through a mix of tax increases and
on foreign policy, it depends. it was also on their attitude of what constitutes a fair tax code, what is a reasonable budget, whether or not you will be cutting the budget. congressman ryan says that, even though he passed the ryan budget through the house of representatives, which did not become law, he drastically cut across the board 19%, in eviscerating education and so many other things. he said, no, no, that is not a cut. he said it is a smaller increase. i want to tell that all to your parents when they don't take a $2,500 tax credit next year if they win could tell that to the two hundred thousand kids who will be kicked off of early education. on taxes and make you go back and look, paul ryan is saying his budget really is not a budget cut. that is like governor romney standing in an unemployment line and say, i did not outsource your job, i offshore it. that is the distinction they make. [applause] when i point out that governor romney, who is a great businessman, did the bain way, the lowest wages, the cheapest community that you can find, and then move there, offshore, out
another tape and we'll switch subjects over to one of my favorites, taxes, listen to what paul ryan said last night, debating taxes. >> there are enough rich people and small businesses to tax and to pay for all their spending and so the next time you hear them say don't worry about it we'll get a few wealthy people to pay their fair share, watch the middle class, the tax bill is coming to you. >> jimmy you had two clear opposites last night. you had ryan defending romney's tax reform plan which lowers marginal rates and puts a strict spending cap on deductions or you had joe biden who proudly was proclaiming who wants to raise taxes by $1 trillion on the rich. how does this play out, jimmy in the next two debates and the remainder of the campaign? >> finally, i'm delighted that someone in this case as paul ryan pointed out that even though the president's been talking about this fantasy, bib lechal middle class tax right that romney and ryan has upon the american people it's the obama plan that has the tax hike in it because there's no way you can pay for all of the spending this admini
at the critical mass, look at exactly how it is being done in taxes which has charts. i will then find enough of a difference and i can write some words that can be administered by two or 3000 federal justices as they try to do with programs. >> if you then look at some of the other deficiencies and clarify the consideration of reasonably available alternatives a necessity, even to read the weakness of the program to the absence of those factors. this is a narrow window. >> once you reach a certain number then you cannot use race anymore. >> i do not want to get it. this is unacceptable. this is her right. katherine mangu-ward caller: [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >>, charles heard talks about the campaign. he talks about how non-citizens can impact the number of votes each state is given. we discussed the the the anniversary of the cuban missile crisis. "washington journal" live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> linda mcmahon and chris murphy faced off in their second debate for the senate seat to replace joe
never been done before. >> been done a couple times. jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> oh, now you're jack kennedy. jon: they touched on the biggest issues for americans jobs and the economy. their messages directed at middle class voters. >> can you declare anything off limits? >> mortgage loopholes. higher deductions, from higher income people. >> can you guaranty no one making less than 100,000 have a mortgage deduction impacted? >> this tax as million small businesses. he keeps trying to make you think some movie star, hedge fund guy. >> 97% of the small businesses make less than $250,000 a year. would the no be affected. >> this tax is a million people. a million small businesses. >> does it tax 97% of the american businesses? >> it taxes -- >> foreign policy. >> want to get people out of poverty in the middle class for self-sufficiency. we believe in upward mobility. that is we'll push for in romney administration. >> we saved a million jobs. i never met two guys more down on america across the board. we're told everything is going bad. 5.2 million new jobs, private sector jo
to be a great investment to have our rate of return of 8%. government taxes, about 1/4 of extra income, to get 8% more each year. government taxes of quarter of it at 2% in real terms, that is pretty high relative to the real interest rate that is actually negative. contribution to gdp, saving from doing when it is the efficient captures a substantial -- captures a substantial part of the cost of necessary public investment. and yes, as the economy starts to grow, as the economy gets out of this phase, it will be necessary to find direct revenue means whether it is taxes or fees on the beneficiary or infrastructure to cover the costs. that need not be the priority right now when the economy is so deficient. let's do it right. we don't know what the economy at is going to be the next ten years, but we do now that we are going to be desperately short on public infrastructure for a decade. let's plan a long-term investment program and financing of that program varies with cyclical conditions as those cyclical conditions evolve. second, let's support employers in hiring workers and employees in taki
it comes to taxes. up next, you're going to hear what mitt romney has to say about his plan, what it could mean for you. also, lance armstrong is linked to what one group calls the most sophisticated doping program in cycling history. e 70,000 trades. ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight construction makes it nimble... ♪ its road gripping performance makes it a cadillac. introducing the all-new cadillac xts. available with advanced all-wheel drive. [ engine revving ] it's bringing the future forward. that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> so what's going to happen to your taxes will most certainly be one of the topics paul ryan and joe biden debate thursday night. during my e
teeth in the republican primaries when he said he was going to cut taxes? >> we recall that he is the etch-a-sketch die. we always have to wonder which mitt romney is going to show up. if you continue to lie, or seek another. >> the president referencing a study by harvey rosen, to claim that governor romney is not being straight with the voters about his tax proposal. harvey rosen wrote exactly i can't tell how the obama campaign reached that characterization of my work. under plausible proposals along the lines, governor romney can be revenue neutral and keep the net tax burden on taxpayers with those about $200,000 of income about the same. so why would the president's campaign resort to these tactics? why raise the level of vitriol and insult and in what has already been called the dirtiest campaign in recent presidential history? the answer appears to be simple and obvious. the polls show that governor romney overwhelmingly one the presidential debate, by a historical margin. the impact of his victory is driving governor romney's poll numbers radically higher. this brand-n
every day. >> if i was paris, the whole conversation was about carbon taxes and what's really going to happen. what do you expect will happen? >> i think in this country the likelihood of a carbon tax anytime soon is not there. >> we'll wait for china and india. >> clearly over the next five years or possibly ten years there will be no appetite here for that, but given what -- i'm telling you, the view is a complete -- >> their energy policy is primarily a climate policy. >> you don't even need -- it's not co2, andrew, we'll know within five years. >> some people say it doesn't work. >> i have six chapters on that subject in "the quest." so i think dealing with carbon, the carbon has gone up. >> 400 parts per million. >> that's right. >> that means there's 9.9 -- 999,999.99999999 carbon dioxide. chill. it's eight-tenths. >> i'm chilling. i'm just telling you. >> that's the problem, we're not chilling, we're heating. >> dan thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> we have to put this on our bookshelf so we need a signed copy. >> let me just say thank you, i'm honored to have this a
'll be right back? we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] who will raise taxes on the middle class? according to an independent, non-partisan study, barack obama and the liberals will raise taxes on the middle class by $4,000. the same organization says the plan from mitt romney and common sense conservatives is "not a tax hike on the middle class." want proof? adad the non-partisa study for yourself at american.com. obama a his liberal allies? we can't afford four more years. i'm mitt romney and i approve is message. >> it is going to be a weend seasonal change.. there conditioners today.. tomorrrrow,, definity the furnace. there with fair skies. egrees in gaithersbururg. ththe winds are out of e south. lolook at t the e extent of thid front in quebec all l thee way n toto mississssippi. itsay to some of the coldldest areas. look at how c cold it is to the of us, already 47 in ttsburgh. 36 degrees in chigo. snow in the upper midwest. none of that f us.s. certainly, cold tempmperatures. 75-78. winds wi shift to the north. tomorrow, a wet and chilly sunday. 4848-bit 2s as good as we will i'm b
people are you paying payroll taxes? that's a pretty good number. the unemployment comes from what we call the household survey, calling people up at home and saying do you have a job? are you working? are you unemployment and looking for a job or unemployed and not looking for a job. in that group it's a larger group because you have the self-employed. over the obama years, more and more people have left the labor force completely. especially older people between 50 and 56 that live off their savings and ira's before they should. some of those folks have returned in part-time work essentially in home-based businesses. about 110, 115,000 jobs are created in the establishment survey or the employer survey. but about 850 in the household survey, that would imply 700,000 or about 5% of american families have established a home-based business. it's completely implausible that that could happen. >> okay. so you say it's completely implausible and you are not the first economist to say this. and the only sample in terms of teeny fraction something like 55,000 people they call. is it possibl
are assessed. how records are kept, and if enough taxes are being collected from property owners. william davilla was called before the council n charge of the tax office's integrity department and abruptly resigned last week. >> generally speaking, i would think the controls have improved. theytill have a long way to go. >> okay. >> a lot of work remains, but the key if is for the managers -- key is for the managers and supervisors to manage, supervise, train the people and do their job. >> he said since being hired in 2010 geek, he was only -- 2010, he was only able to have one meeting with the city cfo who also testified before the council today. >>> much more coming your way as the news edge at 6 continues. let's check in with brian at nats work. >> reporter: darkness descended on nationals park. there is a lot to think about for the nats team and nats fans. they lost today and come tomorrow, it's win or go home for the season. back after the break. let me tell you how i will create 12 million jobs when president obama couldn't. first, my energy independence policy means more than thr
that can bring these sides together in a compromise. the second point about fairness and tax, i think it was mr. bowles who said -- no, it was lloyd. he said, i'd pay more taxes, but they'd have to show they'd treat my extra money in a responsible fashion. amen to that. >> what do you think about the idea that if president obama got elected it would be easier to get a deal done because he would no longer worship the god of re-election? >> i think one thing that's missed by everybody is no matter who's elected, the math is the same. i think it's starting to don on romney there's no free lunch tax cuts. for obama, there's no free lunch from raising taxes either. they're both going to face, i think, very similar realities. as i like to say, the math is inexrabble. >> it isn't the same. the math isn't the same. i believe that if you do the right thing, you broaden the tax base, you take away the loopholes, i think that there is a nonstatic aspect. there's economic growth that can make up a difference, which is at the epicenter of that 5 trillion number. >> not just that, they both have ve
of their ideas on their tax cut plan. things the president did not do against governor romney. you'll see after, coming out next tuesday, you know, whether the president's taken this to heart. i think you've got two strategies. one is to counter all the things that the obama campaign thinks were lies, you know, coming out of romney. and also to sort of lay out a road map of what the president has done, and what he intends to do in a second term. >> aimee, as the president does study for tuesday, are there any clear openings that paul ryan left for him to exploit when he faces mitt romney? >> i think what you're going to see is he's going to ask for specifics on tuesday night. he's going to push him on the tax plan. he's also going to push the famous 47% line. you know, democrats really were upset that he didn't use that line of attack before. vice president biden sort of opened the door for him to do that on tuesday. i think you're going to see more a more aggressive obama take that stance a little more. >> but the fact that the president didn't go after him during the debate on the 47% and the
romney supports actually does. more huge tax breaks skewed to the wealthy. while cutting nearly eight hundred billion from medicaid... even though middle-class families rely on medicaid to help loved ones cover nursing-home care. and it helps parents support children with disabilities. if mitt romney really "cares," wouldn't we see it in his priorities? >>> welcome back. jerry sandusky will most likely spend the rest of his life behind bars amount judge sentenced the former penn state football coach to 30 to 60 years in prison for sexually abusing 10 boys over 15 years. three of his victims fought back tears at the hearing as they testified. sandusky also spoke. >>> the new orleans saints bounty investigation is back in the headlines. nfl commissioner roger goodell has ruled on the appeal of four players the league said were paid cash bonuses. goodell upheld the suspension of jonathan vilma. the players can delay the suspensions by appealing again. >>> a warning for some drivers. theanyone who has an airbag replaced in the last five years may have had counterfeit bags installed. a lis
means more than three million new jobs. many of them in manufacturing. my tax reform plan to lower rates for the middle class and for small business creates seven million more. and expanding trade, cracking down on china, and improving job training takes us to over 12 million new jobs. i'm mitt romney, and i approve this message. a family can make... realizing a nursing home is the only choice. for many middle class families, medicaid is the only way to afford the care. but as a governor, mitt romney raised nursing home fees eight times. and as president, his budget cuts medicaid by one-third and burdens families with the cost of nursing home care. we have a president who won't let that happen. [ obama ] i'm barack obama and i approved this message. freight railroads plan to spend $23 billion on their network. that's like launching 4 mars rovers, 10 gps satellites, and 20 space shuttles ...all in one year. and not a penny of it comes from taxpayers. >>> well, it's a bittersweet ending for coca-cola lovers. the last 6.5-ounce returnable glass bottle has rolled off the production line. a
government. our government taxes and spends out of control and our civil liberties are constantly under attack. we can fix it, but we need to get government back into its cagae. >> our final opening statement is from jeff flake. >> good to be here. two days ago, cheryl and i received a wonderful phone call from my son syan and forming as we are grandparents. aidan was born into a wonderful family, but he was born into $50,000 of debt. his share of the federal debt we all hold. that is why the stakes in this election are so high. we have to have somebody who understands fiscal discipline. that has been my record in the house of representatives, where i fought my own leadership on issues like earmarks. they punish me for it, but i kept at it and we do not have earmarks any more. that is the kind of attitude i will take to the united states senate. my opponent have a great rÉsume a. but a great resonate is not a plan. he has been running for a year now and we do not know where he stands on the major issues of the day. we have a choice in this election. we can elect somebody who does not h
the estate tax, achieve north america energy independence, claiming at the same time that president obama's policies would hurt farmers. the governor talks about his five-point plan to fix the economy, something he says will help everyone from farmers to small businesses. >> i'll make sure our tax policies and our regulatory policies and healthcare, all these things come together to make it easier for small business to grow and thrive. america needs this new direction. we can't go on the path we've been on. we must restore america's strength and i will do it with your help. >> the obama campaign leveling a new attack at governor romney today over his plans to cut spending, specifically cut funding for pbs that would affect big bird. they have a new ad about it on today. >> bernie madoff, gut tons of greed and the evil genius to towered over him. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big bird, big bird. >> it's me big bird. >> big yellow, a men as to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> reporter: the republican n
on point impressed both of them hard. he pressed trying very hard on his budget numbers and tax plan and doesn't not work? does this add up? triggered by repeatedly from her. the interesting thing is the question of optics we were talking about before. there's also the question of how ryan's performance will play. it is a presidential? did that experience did not get comfortable enough on that stage? >> he was commonplace and that's what people wanted an obviously was rehearsed in taste. if he did put in that romney did on monday at the foreign policy institute, which was to take libya and pivot to a broader critiques of foreign policy, just as biden pivoted because it's a weakness getting out of iraq and afghanistan. >> biden seemed prepared to come back with the issue of funding for the security. they knew he was going to get attacked on security and had his answer right away, which was he wanted us, you cut the team. it was a good job of him expecting. in terms of this clip, we saw both sides anticipating this discussion. they both have a question was going to come. it came first
and everything from taxes, the economy, to abortion, to libya. >>> also this half hour, from colorado, the fbi is asking the public for any help in finding the kidnapper of 10-year-old jessica ridgeway, as police work to identify what is believed to be her body and not in one piece sadly. >> not the ending anyone wanted for the story. >>> this morning, new evidence the housing market is heating up there. homes getting snapped up in days. even the return of bidding wars. some positive economic news. >>> and later, whitney houston's daughter bobbi kristina with a bomb shelf announcen't about her engagement. her fiance is someone very close to home, extremely close to home. we're going to have it all coming up in "the skinny"." >> huh, bizarre story there. again, is it -- is it really what it is? or little promotion for the reality show that is coming out in a few days later this month. we'll let you decide that one. >>> but first, the one and only vice-presidential debate last night. joe biden, paul ryan walked out onto the stage. both ready to rumble. >> the two men snickered, s
republicans by congressman paul ryan to cut taxes for the wealthiest 2% in this country, that is the president's responsibility and demonstrated that responsibility. >> the president and vice presidents have never been briefed about the fact that more security, never in the presidential daily briefing? >> matters of security personnel are appropriately discussed and decided upon, those responsible for it. everyone responsible for national security, those knowledgeable about it on capitol hill have been aware of the fact that libya is a dangerous place. [talking over each other] >> it was not said last night. what the vice president said -- [talking over each other] >> talking about never briefed that more security -- >> there was a four hour public hearing where the issue was talked about, very specific request for security personnel were made and adjudicated at the state department. hist [talking over each other] >> i am not going to talk to you about -- i am saying matters of how many are -- not decided at the white house but the state. >> on september 10th put out a press release showing th
. >> lori is a small business owner in columbus and might benefit from romney's tax plan. she doesn't believe it will be good for the country. so she's voting for the president. >> you have to pay your fair share in taxes. th means big business, that means small business. >> phillip is ceo of a local industrial supplier. he wants smaller government and is voting for mitt romney. >> i think that is the central question in this election. what is the size, the role, and the scope of government and what is its cost? >> both candidates will be looking for more supporters in this state right up to election day. susan, cbs news, columbus, ohio. >> but don't worry, soon enough the candidates will be back in virginia as well. >>> there's a new report that says pro and antigambling forces are spent more money on their ad campaign that was spent on the entire maryland governor's race. voters will go to the polls in november to decide whether or not they want to expand gambling in the free state. the baltimore sun reports, more than $35 million has been spent so far on that issue alone and
estate never materialized. the only thing i didn't like is the effective tax rate going up. that should be a nonstarter but other than that consumer loans are 53% since the fourth quarter of 2009 and the stock has come on ice. you're chasing it unless you pull out the chart and see was $90. my target above 30 would be what is in the next 50 -- lori: how do you take the cyberattacks? >> it doesn't do anything unless people do start to lose money and there's a run on the banks. we all become so unaccustomed to it and even though the bad guys are one step behind it feels like these attacks haven't done much. they're like many terrorist attacks. if we make some more than they are by knee-jerk reactions as consumers and the stock -- stock market they end of being nothing. melissa: the government stepping up on insider-trading. charlie gasparino joins us with a behind-the-scenes look at the fbi's plan of attack coming up next. lori: u.s. economic data mix. jobless claims report down 30. missing in one state but we have a weaker dollar today. closure improving. they were down and housing marke
are war rejoice talking with one who has told its workers and a ball of victory and higher taxes would mean disaster. david sigell of west state resorts next. the biden and ryan debate is now history. to top political strategists to tell us to one and will it matter? ed rollins, doug shown are next. ♪ lou: the vice-president smile or just being joe, or was it something else? differing views, and ey will be joining us in moments with their analysis and insight. joining first, however, to the markets. stocks coming up early gains again. the dow of two and a half points, not%, points. the s&p and nasdaq down a fraction. the nasdaq of its longest losing streak in almost two months. for the week of three major indexes down more than 2% this, the worst week for the market in four months all of this as consumer confidence unexpectedly soared. last month the highest level in five years. meanwhile, gasoline costs driving producer prices higher, up 1%. in coporate news tonight gp, wells fargo bought -- both reporting big profits. chase down more than 1 percent annabel's fargo done to nap%. per
and higher taxes would mean disaster. david sigellll of west state resortnext. the biden and ryan debate is now history. to top political strategists to tell us to one and will it matter? ed rollins, doug shown are next. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the clo? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. ♪ lou: the vice-president smile or just beig joe, or was it something else? differing views, and they will be joining us in moments with their analysis and insight. joining first, however, to the markets. stocks coming up early gains again. the dow of two and a half points, not%, points. the s&p and nasdaq down a fraction. the nasdaq of its longest losing streak in almost two months. for the week of three major indexes down more than 2% this, the worst week for the market in four months. all of this as consumer confidence unexpectedly soared. last month the highest level in five years. meanwhile, ga
is thinking about a plan which would lower regulations, which would change the tax, which would drive an energy policy that's very aggressive. i don't know if he's going to get 12. i'm not a romney surrogate. i'm not in the campaign. i have never talked to the campaign. i have nothing to do with romney. i just believe this number shouldot determine the outcome of the presidential election. did you see today -- >> i agree with you. jack, you're a hero to business people in this country. you're a hero to all sorts of people. just do it now. do it. i can go back to loving you and you can go back to loving me. just do it now and say it's not right what you said. nobody cooked the books. you don't truly believe that, do you? >> i said i should have put a question mark at the back of it. >> would you argue that you were being provocative and had you put a question mark it would have been seen as more of a provocative statement rather than factual -- >> it would have been a better statement. there's no question. i put a question mark. look at my tweet last night. i looked -- go look at the t
capital and the tax returns, it diminishes the president and it reduces him from the presidential level. and it makes him look petty and it makes hymn him look not like his greatest asset is that people say he's a nice guy who has been doing his best. he gets into that mode and he risks his most priceless asset. but brit hume's point. he has a tough, almost impossible record to defend, i mean, in terms of was it a good economy? it's been the worst economy we have had in the lifetime of most american and it is numbers are there. so how does he defend it if romney keeps smiling and going after him? >> greta: he has to communicate to the voters and talk to them. i think that's his strength. >> what does he communicate? he can get the crowdsil. he has to be able -- >> greta: he has a ground game. >> if you elect me, it's going to be far better in the next four years than the last four years and far better than what recommendny is going to give you. that's what he has to convince the country of. [laughter] >> greta: pat, thank you. >> okay. >> greta: now to the surprising job report. the une
talking about taxes. was it a fact or fiction. take a listen. >> middle class will pay less and people making a million dollars or more about begin to contribute slightly more. >> that one is an interesting one because he used the million-dollar mark. well, that's moving the goal post. the president, under the tax plan. >> considerably. >> here is the fact. president obama has been promoting for years the threshold for a tax hike would be considerably lower, individuals making $200,000, not a million. >> right. >> 200,000. households making 250,000. >> was it just, you know, he he just said something off the cuff like that and didn't know it? that's a considerable shift in policy if that's indicates. >> considerable. absolutely. that's not moving the goal post. that's just moving it so far you can't even see it you are right. does that mean behind the scenes they are talking about that number? that's the question. >> hoping. because 200,000ness cities like new york, in cities like los angeles are certainly not struggling but that is far from being wealthy. they walked that aback a litt
estate taxes, climate change, environmental regulations, energy policy are hurting farmers. he continues to go after the president on issue of jobs of the even though the unemployment number is down below the psych lodge call level at 8% on the stump in newport news, governor romney found a new way to use it. >> if you look back 60 years, at all the months we had unemployment before 8% before president obama. there were 39 months. in all 60 years with unemployment above 8%. under this president there have been 43 months. under one president alone. he does not understand what it takes to create a real recovery. i do. >> reporter: bill you mentioned the pew poll. the pew poll governor romney was seen as guy with new ideas. he was the one people trust to create jobs. bill: one of the lingering numbers in the debate governor romney's honesty to cut federal spending. >> taking on big bird. bill: how is the obama team, responding that, going after it? >> governor romney was trying to make a point cutting unnecessary spending said. i like pbs i like big bird. i even like you, jim lehrer, but i
reducing taxes, regulation, cutting spending, will result in a better america and a better life for the american people. >> yeah, dagen, if you were to go get an interview for a job in any business, you would not go in there and sit during the interview trashing the guy that had the job before you. you would try to sell your potential boss, here's what i bring to the table, what i would do, if you hire me to this job. that's the same thing when you're running for office. yet both these guys, maybe they never interviewed for a job, i don't know, but they just want to trash the other guy, and we had 90 minutes of mitt romney being mostly positive about what he would do. and he shot up in the polls as a result. he should make all his commercials that way and the next two debates the same thing. let obama a fester in his own problem. dagen: but is president obama in a tough situation about talking that way about himself in the next debate because of his record over the last -- >> that's again, a very good question and very good point. the obama campaign believes something that argua
taxes, those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> so question about the numbers, do you care when the number comes out, 7.8%, did you talk about it with your neighbors? do you care? and many pundits say no, that's not how people vote. when they go to the polls they vote their feelings, you know, they know if their neighbor lost their job and know if gas prices are currently through the roof or know if they put can't put food on the table and gas prices skyrocketing. january 20th of 2009 to today, out in california we're getting word upwards of $6 a gallon for gasoline and gas stations running out and people lined up trying to get gasoline out there. and this is not good news. >> and governor huckabee said that those are the things that obviously mean so much more to voters and whether or not the actual unemployment number fluctuates. >> they're looking at gas prices. when they squeeze that handle on the pump, they know they're paying nearly 4 and 5 bucks a gallon and when they get the paycheck they know it's less than it used to be they know that food prices are up and costs
, talk about taxes, talk about regulations, talk about getting people back to work. i think and i don't know but just judging by his record over the past ten years, i think he sees abortion as a sort of maddening distraction from what he considers to be his main agenda, which is work and jobs. >> do you -- okay. do you really think he thinks that, that it's something that -- you don't think he has a gut feeling about it, a belief? >> i don't think he has a core conviction about what the federal government should do with abortion. again, you look at how much he's gone back and forth. again, there are a lot of republicans, there are a lot of conservative republicans, mike, who -- what? >> i believe it's an impractical issue for anybody trying to run for president as a republican. i'm asking what you think he believes. >> that's what i'm telling you. all you have to do is see how many times he's changed on abortion to know this isn't at his he core. you can look at his record and know what is at his core. lower taxes, lower regulations, being pro-business, getting people back to work, be
personal. >> jack kennedy lowered taxes, increased growth. ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, you're jack kennedy. >> reporter: barb after barb. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. but i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> well, don't take all of the four minutes then. >> reporter: biden was often dominant. maybe a little too dominant. republicans claimed he interrupted ryan 82 times. often breaking out in laughter. even when ryan was talking about iranian nukes. >> and all i have to point to -- >> reporter: biden was even all smiles when he accused ryan of basically not telling the truth. >> this is a bunch of stuff. look, here's the deal. >> what does that mean, a bunch of stuff? >> well, it means it's simply inaccurate. >> it's irish. >> it is. we irish call it malarkey. >> reporter: they disagreed on virtually everything. from syria, to medicare. >> now they got a new plan. trust me. it's not going to cost you any more. folks, follow your instincts on this one. >> they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar, tur
respective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan said the administration failed the middle class. >> we're going in the wrong direction. look where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> reporter: side by side at the same table, biden and ryan were not shy about directly engaging each other. sometimes with harsh attacks. sometimes with humor. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the word don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporr: with the polls tightening, the president needs to fire up his democratic base, while romney need to convert 2008 obama voters. rob, paula, last night here in kentucky, both of them got a lot of help from their running mates. >> karen, can we say there was a winner? can we call it a draw? i was looking at several polls, three gave it to paul ryan. three gave the to joe biden. was there a winner? or was this a tie? >> yeah, paula those instant reactions were showing voters were evenly split. but i think if you have to pick who really got what they wanted t
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